On April the 21st 2001 I went for a tour around the Ottways. It was a long trip and we were following a map, but the map seemed wrong and we got lost. There were two cars. Nik Englund (Grinder) Andrew MacDonald, Janet Gimbert, and me were in the Rnagie. Samual Condie and his Uncle were in his Lada. I put Andrew in charge of the photos, however he didn't seem to take to many. Tim